The decline of Sammyboy

[69monster]

are you seriously when u say that? i dont understand why you let some zaps affect you to this extend. surely you must have more good time then bad time in your stay here.. i see u have close to 300 rep points from less than 40 post. Work that out and you will realise you have done very well.

I know it can be frustrating to get zap and yet not know why and who zapped u. However that;s life. so long u gain more than you lose, a few zap wont hurt.


most importantly, let's recognise that sammy has done and put in a damn good job in giving us this forum over the years. Let's support him

Originally Posted by bear196

To the agenda idiots our there, zap me all you like. All I'll do is disappear like the three quarters of paying customers on this site before, and you can pat each other's backsides and wonder why business is down.

[69monster]

btw TS i just upped you 36 points

remember that as there are people who will disagree with u and zap u , there are always also good souls who will up you.

Originally Posted by teletubby

are you seriously when u say that? i dont understand why you let some zaps affect you to this extend. surely you must have more good time then bad time in your stay here.. i see u have close to 300 rep points from less than 40 post. Work that out and you will realise you have done very well.

I know it can be frustrating to get zap and yet not know why and who zapped u. However that;s life. so long u gain more than you lose, a few zap wont hurt.


most importantly, let's recognise that sammy has done and put in a damn good job in giving us this forum over the years. Let's support him

[69monster]

just saw this post of yours.. agree bro..let just continue to post and contribute like what we have been doing all this years.

Continue the sbf sharing spirit.

Originally Posted by bear196

I go back to days of Doomas CK and so on. A lot of my early posts have been wiped out, and I never posted all that much in any case as I realized there were a lot of people with their own agendas. I've seen your posts over the years and I think you know what I mean.

As I said, if I wanted points, I would do what I did yesterday much earlier, that is post on the exchange section. Half the reason why I did it this time was to irritate my zapper. The only way to deal with bullies is punch them in the nose, and if it was real life I could be tempted to let fly.

I only chip in occasionally (but not with FR, and sometimes by PM) but I do want a vibrant community though. Kudos for Sam for his initiative and you as well for a run of some very good reports.

In short, as I said earlier I have a life outside of SB. If there's something I think worth saying, I might post. But I'm not very interested in being a keyboard GL guru.

[max_priest]

Sammyboyfor,

I thank you for your initiative and effort in setting up this sex forum since more than a decade ago. It appears that it has since developed into a lucrative business venture for you. Our local paper has since helped SBF to publicize it to another level to a certain extent but in an infamous fashion. More importantly, I have managed to gather what I desire in this forum in order to sextisfy my lust ...

Cheerio ...

[hugs]

To the bros @ geylang forum.

This geylang forum has made an expert out of many samsters who otherwise will be as sotong as housewives. Dont you agree we were all blurr blurr newbies once?

There will be new young samsters joining while the older ones are valuable assets.

Lets agree to disagree and throw stones at each other but always hug and make up at the end?

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

I have been receiving complaints about the forum since its inception. There have always been crooked OKTs and hidden agendas here. It's part and parcel of human nature.

But people forget that this forum has never been just about advertising whore services. In fact I tried to keep freelancers out for more than 3 years.

This forum is about everything sexual and it here that people are free to express their innermost desires and perversions and seek opinions regarding their sexuality and their relationships.

The most popular sections have always been the pix exchange and the adult discussions sectons. The traffic to those two sections adds up to more than 50% of all page views. All the whore sections combined contribute less than 40% of traffic.

That is why traffic fell considerably when I culled membership from 390,000 members to 150,000 members by deleting accounts. This resulted in views of the picture section being reduced by 60% (because only members can view that section) but I thought it was a necessary sacrifice for the long term. A thread of 14 million views and counting was also removed because it contained shocking stuff.

While whore clients come and go in search of the best bang for their bucks, it is people like yourself who have a much longer term relationship with sammyboyforum and for that I am truly grateful.

[bear196]

Brother Sam Leong

To many of us this forum is like an old kopi tiam, we want to see her full of friends and in good shape.

Over the years, however, more assholes (OKT, clones etc) have moved in, and some solid contributors moved out as a result.

I don't know if any of these suggestions are feasible, but some suggestions to help beat back the assholes are:

1. Make down voting and upvoting transparent. This will reduce the silent sniping and bullying that makes posting here a negative experience. If possible I'd go so far as to make it transparent to all members which would help immensely to expose clones and gangs.

2. Get rid of the point exchange so points are earned not traded. I had 44 points after 10 years of not soliciting them and 200++ within 2 days of posting twice in the points exchange (and maybe 150 for my rants)

3. Make the points roll off over time, like golf or tennis world rankings. This, along with the above suggestions will eventually kill off the guys whose points far exceed their value. (And in many cases these guys have negative value)

I am not saying high point guys are the problem, I am saying there are some guys who are here to manipulate the system and one of the things they do is trade points and use their reputation to overwhelm low point posters.

[sammyboyfor]

What exactly is the problem in this section?

With government approved broads I thought it would be most peaceful of all and most OKTs would not be involved in the forum.

Are the various fighting factions here customers who are loyal to certain houses or do the OKTs of the various houses actually log in covertly to promote their products?

Enlightenment would help because I hardly ever read the stuff in this section. I'm far too busy with other flame wars elsewhere plus removing inappropriate porn etc.

[BronzeGod]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

What exactly is the problem in this section?

With government approved broads I thought it would be most peaceful of all and most OKTs would not be involved in the forum.

Are the various fighting factions here customers who are loyal to certain houses or do the OKTs of the various houses actually log in covertly to promote their products?

Enlightenment would help because I hardly ever read the stuff in this section. I'm far too busy with other flame wars elsewhere plus removing inappropriate porn etc.

I think it's a bit of both. What happened with this section is there were a lot of promotional FRs which I and others pointed out in the past, and when these FRs were questioned, the loyal "customers" or OKT go on a witchhunt to find the customer who posted the negative feedback. So these loyal "customers" or OKTs get very upset when their marketing ruse is exposed or questioned - and they take it personally and may even try to track your identity in order to harass you in real life so that u'll shut up and stop posting.

There are also those who get very sensitive when you mention certain houses or girls, as they are the girl's so called lover (stupid i know because which china girl really loves you? they're here for the money!). So for example if Samster A post about Girl B, he might get angry messages or even threats from the "lover" not to post.

The problem is when these wars break out online, no one speaks up for the defenceless and often those who dare to share their honest opinions for discussion get cyber bullied into submission or silence. Their crime? Being actually honest in sharing which girls, houses or OKTs are good and which are well, plain lousy - and being to straightforward about it.

Also apparently, although we are online - we also must be polite and respect so-called "seniors" and all sorts of unwritten rules which make posting here a pain because why bother sharing if you have to observe so many "rules" and beware of so many egos? And one wrong word can unleash a massive clone attack where nick after nick (some that have not posted in years and will disappear after their purpose in cyber bullying their victim into submission is achieved). And sometimes, when these sinister characters can't out argue you online, they turn to threatening you in real life - so I think many have decided it's just not worth sharing.

In the past when questions were posed in the forum asking for feedback on a certain girl or house or some directions or advice, u would see replies almost instanty. You would also see a constant flow of FRs from various houses - not just the usual 3-4 houses these day - and from many different nicks - and not the same few you see these days. And there'd be active discussions and exchange of opinions everyday on girls.

Now it's just ... well, I think you can see for yourself what this forum has become... a place for arguments, tcss (nothing wrong with TCSS, just that there should be more discussions on the actual girls), and if you notice a lot of strange nicks that have not posted for years suddenly appearing or brand new nicks everyday asking newbie questions.

Nothing wrong with newbie asking questions - but some obviously fishy. Eg. Why need to say: "Hi, I'm newbie here, can i ask blah blah blah"

And then such nicks also will go around acknowledging the so-called "seniors" in the forum

It's almost as if the new nick is aware of the politics here in SBF and wants to act like some humble beginner respecting or the "gurus" here - but how would a newbie be aware of all this and why would he bother unless he is actually in fact a seasoned veteran in SBF, so therefore create new nick and try to get approval from the get go of various samsters in the geylang threads. Why post in SBF also need to act like newbie who know our place and bow to "seniors" I know i didn't bother with that when i started posting, and i got hell for the "error". Or were these nicks created to support the opinions of certain samsters in order to give them "credibility?"

Just sharing my thoughts since you asked. All these factors made it plain pointless to post here anymore. You just look at the geylang threads where nothing much else is being discussed apart from random and rubbish stuff to pass the time here. Nothing wrong with that, as I do it too these days.

But how did it become like this? I think some of the reasons for this decline are listed above.

But really who cares now lah? It's too late to turn things around. Most will not bother to return to this place with so many sinister characters and clones waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting.

I don't know about others, but i now don't give a shit if this forum shuts down and is gone for good. Just leave this place to waste will do

[BronzeGod]

To add, all one really needs to know is where the houses are between lorong 8-30 and their phone numbers which are listed here: https://samsforum.com/showth...=321246&page=9

After that, one can navigate geylang alone. Just go from house to house, pick a girl you like. Fuck. After fucking, sit at the sofa area and observe girls coming in and out for maybe an hour or so if you have time. Ask the OKT for the girls name if you saw something you like. And note down as your next target.

You may also ask OKT who are the popular or new girls and which house. They sometimes might tell you, then you can call the girl down for viewing. Remember to tell OKT you only want to see, and not confirm will order the girl that is coming. this is important so the OKT will communicate with the other house okt that it is for viewing only, no confirmed deal. Or just go straight to the house with the girls mentioned and view for yourself if possible.

Try to visit a few different houses each time so you can see a variety of girls rather than stuck with the same few, this means less queue too for you.

After following these few simple steps, you don't need this forum anymore. cheers.

[hugs]

@BronzeGod, hi. For a period of 10 years in sbf, this is the first time I get to see your nick and just when i thought i get to know you, you are leaving. Guess i am in time to say hello and goodbye.

Cheers.

[comm]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

What exactly is the problem in this section?

With government approved broads I thought it would be most peaceful of all and most OKTs would not be involved in the forum.

Are the various fighting factions here customers who are loyal to certain houses or do the OKTs of the various houses actually log in covertly to promote their products?

Enlightenment would help because I hardly ever read the stuff in this section. I'm far too busy with other flame wars elsewhere plus removing inappropriate porn etc.

whats wrong about this section...hmm..i guess it is the number of fake FR being spammed using different accounts and the drowning out of Real FRs.

boss can see how clones are spamming away fake FR in my thread , all promoting the same WL (L1809: Yao Yao)


another issue is the toxic 'arguments' and 'personal attacks on other samsters' that has been going on Freely without any degree of control for a long time and poisoning the 'atmosphere' of this section. > Bronze god has also pointed this out in his post


and finally, maybe the real problem is that boss / mod do not go geylang so u dunno who is writing fake fr and who is writing real fr. perhaps boss should subsidize the mod to go geylang and do market research

[sammyboyfor]

As far as I can see there's nothing wrong with the forum. I keep it up and running as reliably as I can... definitely better than 99.5%

The problem with the forum is the behavior of the members. I guess you have to blame their parents and teachers for that.

If the FRs are fake, tell the section Mods to get rid of those posts unless you're telling me the mod is sleeping.

If the Mod is no good tell me who is fair and impartial and I'll appoint him.

Perhaps I should appoint Hugs as a mod for this section. She could run it from a woman's point of view.

Originally Posted by comm

whats wrong about this section...hmm..i guess it is the number of fake FR being spammed using different accounts and the drowning out of Real FRs.

boss can see how clones are spamming away fake FR in my thread , all promoting the same WL (L1809: Yao Yao)


another issue is the toxic 'arguments' and 'personal attacks on other samsters' that has been going on Freely without any degree of control for a long time and poisoning the 'atmosphere' of this section. > Bronze god has also pointed this out in his post


and finally, maybe the real problem is that boss / mod do not go geylang so u dunno who is writing fake fr and who is writing real fr. perhaps boss should subsidize the mod to go geylang and do market research

[comm]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

As far as I can see there's nothing wrong with the forum. I keep it up and running as reliably as I can... definitely better than 99.5%

The problem with the forum is the behavior of the members. I guess you have to blame their parents and teachers for that.

If the FRs are fake, tell the section Mods to get rid of those posts unless you're telling me the mod is sleeping.

If the Mod is no good tell me who is fair and impartial and I'll appoint him.

Perhaps I should appoint Hugs as a mod for this section. She could run it from a woman's point of view.

my previous comments is for this geylang section only, im enjoying the other parts of the forum

[hugs]

sabo king you. i hv more things in hand than i can chew and busy with one thing i wish to have in hand soon.

ok i shall behave like a woman who quietly stands behind her man. i'll be quiet becos i have never been to geylang but i just want to keep assets while welcoming new bloods.

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

As far as I can see there's nothing wrong with the forum. I keep it up and running as reliably as I can... definitely better than 99.5%

The problem with the forum is the behavior of the members. I guess you have to blame their parents and teachers for that.

If the FRs are fake, tell the section Mods to get rid of those posts unless you're telling me the mod is sleeping.

If the Mod is no good tell me who is fair and impartial and I'll appoint him.

Perhaps I should appoint Hugs as a mod for this section. She could run it from a woman's point of view.

[korean]

Originally Posted by sammyboyfor

Perhaps I should appoint Hugs as a mod for this section. She could run it from a woman's point of view.

I give my vote to hugs