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Originally Posted by funboi
Medically speaking, any vaccines have certain percentage effectiveness against infection.  For example, the flu vaccines itself have high medium low efficacy. It vary because flu virus mutate over time to escape the vaccine effectiveness. This is nothing new to the world. But still some doctors will encourage old people to take it because virus circulate and its invisible to human eyes. If contact with the original virus, the protection is high while it may be low against variant. Getting infection doesn't mean vaccine don't protect against severe illness or death.
If a vaccine says 40% effectiveness against infection. 40% is a chance anyone can gamble on. To make it easy for chiongster understanding.  Just like husband and wife. The husband go out find FL have sex. He can choose either to raw or use condom provided by the FL. Or he choose to have BBBJ and condom sex later.  So that pretty much lower risk of HIV since he took the condom but unfortunately BBBJ gave him STD. 55555.
Using another possible scenario. A chiongster went SPA or KTV for relaxation. Happy ending with condom but without mask on due too fast and furious. But for some their inner conscience tells them its better to be vax first before got happy.  As much as possible later go back home sleep like nothing happen 55555. At least got 40% protection.
So they are trying to protect not just themselves but also their wife or family. 555 |
Thank you for examples. I think you might have some misunderstanding on the vaccine. It does not prevent infection and transmission. Even MOH don't advertise these anymore. Let's say I give you this 40%. What is the trade off though? Will using a condom have the risk of sending me to the A&E? I have to see a doc or specialist and pay out of my own pocket after I used it?
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Originally Posted by funboi
Sure is spike after vaccine? Not because wuhan virus circulating or mutate become Delta virus circulating? Again for chiongsters easy understanding. A number of chiongsters went to fuck the same FL. Later someone post FR saying he kana STD from the FL. So who really causes the STD to spread? 555555 When Wuhan China don't have vaccine, didn't their case also spike? Hospitals full house and more dead than usual till even Dr Li WenLiang also died of the virus?
The concept of booster shot is not uncommon even for flu annually. And FYI, not just Israel going for 3rd and 4th. Countries using non-mRNA such as Inactivated vaccines are also going for 3rd and likely 4th too. UAE made it compulsory for its residents who uses Sinopharm to receive 3rd shot with a deadline.
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Again, I don't have to pray that nothing happens if I choose to get a flu jab. If you ask around you will definitely hear stories on how ppl got hurt after taking vaccine. Took days, weeks or even months to recover. Some never recovered. All these sometimes happen after the 1st shot but many chose to bit the bullet, live with the effects and hope they will 1 day go away because of all the coercion. So now you want them to keep trying their luck for the 3rd..4th or even more shots?
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Originally Posted by funboi
Don't mind I say this 5555 I think zeng hu already kind of gave up all the "good will" asking people go take vaccination. They also know no point try convince others but politically still must ask 55555 entertain a bit. 5555
I quote my above posting. "80% have decided to either die as a country or survive as a country. There is no turning back."
Honestly no one will feel the sadness or pain till someone related die of virus or vaccination then they feel. Even if you don't take the vaccine also not anyone problem 55555
Everything leave to fate.
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Given a choice are the key words here. We need to be able to decide what is best for us.
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Originally Posted by EtherC
Its really funny how these non vaxxers think they have a stronger authority than doctors, epidemiologists and clinicians who have spent at least 50000 hrs of study & research time on the topics. Speaking as if they have all the data & facts when the simple facts they need to be concerned with are : FDA has already approved the Pfizer vaccine; the Pfizer clinical trials were performed using 40 thousand brave volunteers. The various vaccines are also authorized by multiple expert panels across different continents ;US CDC, European Medical Authority & WHO. Tedros may be a politician but he does not make the approval decisions on vaccines by himself. There are expert panels staffed by real doctors / professors who review the data and approve the vaccines. The mRNA technology is not brand new either; it started in the 80s. It took these extraordinary times & extraordinary amount of $ + effort + brave volunteers around the world to make this happen. Do not make a mockery out of this with your petulant insistence on people listening to your skewed “analysis”, go publish a real scientific paper in the Lancet and we will take you seriously.
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A++ textbook reply!! I am sure you also have the perfect reasons on why I am a racist if I dare question CECA.
We are not anti-vax. We are anti unsafe medical procedures. We listen to well known doctors(including Nobel prize winner), scientific researchers like the Ex-VP of Pfizer, epidemiologists and clinicians. They have done their own clinical trials on the effects of the vaccines and alternative treatments. Of course their views are censored on the internet and will never make it to the MSM.
FDA approval means nothing. Do you try to find out who are on the board? How the revolving door in US works? Top FDA officials are resigning in protest? Hundreds of drugs recalls after FDA approval? Dr Fauci must be your hero.
Isn't it good to live in a world where the authorities cares so much about us? They are doing whatever it takes to stay in power just so they can continue to serve us. We just close our eyes and mind, do whatever they tells us to do and life will only get better.
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